Travaglio a La7: “Questo è il primo centrosinistra che fa opposizione, ma per certi circoletti ne fa troppa. Vogliono rifilargli Renzi e Gentiloni”

Marco Travaglio, editor-in-chief of Il Fatto Quotidiano, criticized the Italian centrist-left during a segment on La7’s Otto e Mezzo program, accusing certain factions of pushing for a version of the opposition that mirrors the policies of the center-right. He argued that these groups want to impose figures such as Matteo Renzi and Paolo Gentiloni onto the opposition, creating a diluted imitation of the center-right rather than a distinct alternative to Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni’s government. Travaglio’s comments came in response to discussions surrounding Meloni’s parliamentary communications ahead of the European Council meeting in Brussels on October 15-16. The session would address topics including Ukraine, competitiveness, the Middle East, defense, and European security. During the discussion, journalist Lilli Gruber asked Travaglio whether Meloni was justified in highlighting divisions among the progressive camp, particularly regarding foreign policy and the stance of Five Star Movement leader Giuseppe Conte. Travaglio responded by pointing out internal contradictions within Meloni’s government, noting that she does not agree with Interior Minister Matteo Salvini on matters related to Ukraine and rearmament. However, Salvini continues to support Meloni’s decisions, likely due to his declining party and the risk of losing power if he were to abandon key positions. Travaglio emphasized that the divisions within the centrist-left exist even within the ruling majority. He further noted that Meloni uses the disunity of the opposition to mask the weaknesses of her own coalition. According to Travaglio, the opposition has no obligation to be unified, whereas the governing majority must be cohesive. He questioned why Meloni focuses on the opposition’s shortcomings instead of addressing the issues within her own government. On the topic of Meloni’s role in European politics, Travaglio highlighted another contradiction, stating that although Meloni is often labeled as anti-European and nationalist, she operates within the European Commission under President Ursula von der Leyen, supported by a significant ally, Raffaele Fitto. He suggested that Meloni’s statements on Europe reflect her position within the current coalition, which includes Forza Italia and the Democratic Party. Regarding the war in Ukraine, Travaglio acknowledged that differences among the opposition will persist as long as the conflict lasts, as they mirror broader societal divisions. He pointed out that while most parliamentary parties support continued financial and military aid to Ukraine until the last Ukrainian soldier falls, the vast majority of Italians favor ending the war to bring both sides to the negotiating table. Travaglio also emphasized a historical shift, stating that this is the first instance of a centrist-left opposition in Italy, unlike past years when the centrist-left aligned with Silvio Berlusconi’s government. He noted that the centrist-left has historically supported Berlusconi’s governance, including agreements and laws, without ever opposing them. During the same segment, Travaglio critiqued the idea of forming a broad coalition involving the Democratic Party, Five Star Movement, and Avanguardia (Avs) with Matteo Renzi. He compared Renzi to a scorpion that stings the frog and causes everything, including himself, to sink. Travaglio argued that Renzi had destabilized several governments, including those led by Enrico Letta, his own, and Giuseppe Conte II, making it questionable for others to trust him now. The debate intensified when Travaglio challenged the notion that Renzi’s inclusion would strengthen the centrist-left’s chances against Meloni. He pointed out that Renzi had recently applauded Meloni’s statements on Ukraine, suggesting that aligning with Renzi might not be beneficial for the opposition. He also raised concerns about the reliability of opinion polls, arguing that they only account for voters and not those who abstain from voting. Travaglio proposed reversing the perspective of such surveys, suggesting that a poll asking how many would vote for the centrist-left without Renzi would yield surprising results. He likened Renzi to Roberto Vannacci in the center-right, noting that Vannacci alone holds more value than as a supplementary addition to the coalition. Massimo Giannini, an editorialist from Repubblica, defended the need for a broader coalition, citing the recent YouTrend survey showing that the center-right without Vannacci leads slightly over the centrist-left with Renzi. He argued that Renzi had been an effective opponent to Meloni, especially in terms of communication. However, Travaglio countered that Renzi had previously supported Meloni’s positions, specifically on Ukraine. Giannini and Gruber clarified that Renzi had only applauded Meloni’s remarks on Ukraine, not her overall approach. Despite this clarification, Travaglio remained skeptical of Renzi’s reliability and influence. Italy’s upcoming primary elections will determine who will represent the centrist-left in the 2027 general election. After eliminating other potential candidates, the choice has narrowed to Elly Schlein of the Democratic Party and Giuseppe Conte of the Five Star Movement. This marks a significant moment for Italian politics, as the two leaders have contrasting backgrounds and political ideologies. Schlein represents a social-democratic left rooted in Europe’s traditional political families and strongly supports Ukraine. In contrast, Conte’s Five Star Movement has positioned itself against arms deliveries to Kyiv and European rearmament plans. This ideological divergence raises questions about how the centrist-left can reconcile these positions ahead of the primaries. Unlike in other Western democracies, Italy’s electoral system necessitates the formation of multi-party coalitions before an election, leaving little room for post-election negotiations. The previous electoral law, enacted by the centrist-left in 2017, and the new one, passed in October 2023, emphasize the importance of forming such coalitions to remain competitive. The failure to form a coalition in the 2022 election resulted in a fragmented centrist-left, allowing the center-right to secure victory despite receiving fewer total votes. Schlein has vowed to avoid repeating this mistake, emphasizing the necessity of coalition unity to challenge the right-wing government. As the centrist-left prepares for the 2027 elections, the competition between Schlein and Conte highlights the deep divisions within the progressive alliance. The ability to reconcile differing views on foreign policy, particularly regarding Ukraine, will be crucial in determining the success of the coalition.